Where Did The Water Come From?

[Dr. John Nay]

Where did all the water come from to flood Earth?

Answer: Three places (primarily).

Explanation: In 2 Peter 3:5 we read, ??the earth was formed out of water and by water.? (NIV)

On the first day of creation week God began with the ?Big Splash,? Earth. So, to begin with God created ex nihilo (from out of nothing) water. On the second day He separated water from water.

And God said, ?Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.? So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. God called the expanse ?sky.? And there was evening, and there was morning ? the second day. And God said, ?Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.? And it was so.
God called the dry ground ?land,? and the gathered waters he called ?seas.? And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:6-10, NIV)

Before the Flood, Earth was protected by an immense water-vapor canopy that rode upon the atmosphere. This was an enormous reservoir of water.

It?s important to note that there was no rain until the Flood, ?? for the LORD God had not sent rain on the earth?, but streams camp up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground ---? (Genesis 2:5-6, NIV) Earth was basically a green house, protected from the harmful rays of the cosmos, with a temperate climate. (Not only was it temperate, but it was mild too : )

On the third day of the creation week we have the appearance of dry land.

And God said, ?Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.? And it was so. God called the dry ground ?land,? and the gathered waters he called ?seas.? And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:9-10, NIV) This passage proposes a single, very large landmass. This huge continent had vast subterranean water reservoirs. These subterranean (below the surface of the ground) water reservoirs are implied by the beginning of the flood when ?? all the great deep burst forth, ?? (Genesis 7:11, NIV)

Sooooooo, we have water in three primary places:

1. Seas
2. Canopy
3. Subterranean

Secondary: All plants, trees, animals, and humans have a relatively high percentage of water.

Note that in Genesis 7:11 the springs of the great deep burst forth first. This bursting forth may have been in the form of steam or hot water geysers, which would in turn shoot holes in the canopy, thus beginning its? collapse of forty days and nights.

Conclusion: There was plenty of water available to completely flood all of Earth.

[Jay]

On the subject of where did all that water come from...I was wondering if anyone had read Dr. Walt Brown's Hydroplate Theory? What did you think of it? It is found on creationscience.com. I thought it seemed like a plausible theory. If there was indeed a water canopy what forces do we know of that would have maintained that canopy in the upper atmoshere. I realize the Lord could have done this supernaturally but I wondered if there is another explanation. Thankyou for any comments...Jay

[Dr. John Nay]

Jay, thanks for your input.

Yes, I have read Dr. Walt Brown?s Hydroplate Theory. It makes sense to me. As you might already know, Dr. Walt Brown has a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.). He is competent in physics, mathematics, and computer science and, I believe, puts forth a theory relative to Earth?s hydrosphere and lithosphere that is beyond plausible, i.e. probable. I highly recommend his book, ?In the Beginning, Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood? available through his web site: www.creationscience.com

I believe that Genesis 1:-8 makes it clear that there was in fact a canopy, although the passage does not give us the specifics of it?s location, magnitude, specific composition, and the physics that held it in its? place.
Since I?m not a scientist, I simply go with the theories that make the most sense to me in the light of Scripture. Dr. Carl Baugh (www.creationevidence.org), whom I consider a credible scientist, proposes that this canopy was in the form of ice crystals (a cirrus cloud is composed of ice crystals) and rode on the atmosphere. There is a heat sink about eleven miles about Earth (Troposphere), which is where he proposes it rode, resulting in all kinds of good things, e.g. increased atmospheric pressure resulting in increased oxygen concentrations, harmful cosmic rays filtered out resulting in increased longevity of life and shortened healing time for injuries, etceteras. He has a video series, ?Creation in Symphony?, which I think is excellent, that explains this in some detail.

[Jay]

Dr. Nay
Thankyou for your reply. I will definitely check out the website you gave. I do have Dr. Walt Brown's book. I teach middle school math and science and feel it gives me some tools to show kids the alternative to the theory of evolution that they are bombarded with in public school books and in the media. Thankyou for your time and all that you do with this website...God Bless you...Jay

[Jukia]

Thank God my children are out of college and well past the potential for a middle school math and science teacher to attempt to provide them with non-science. Anyone who believes this nonsense about vapor canopys and the hydroplate theory and the fountains of the deep and Noah's flood 4500+/- years ago has no business teaching science to children. What you espouse is not science, it is a world view based on a literal interpretation of a religious document. Once again, thank God my kids are no longer in school.

People are "bombarded" with information on evolution because it fits the facts.

[Jay]

Jukia
If you choose to look at the beauty in the world like your children or a rose and choose to think they are the mere processes of random chance and mutation thats your freedom...I'm just glad you are not my father....Jay

[Jukia]

Jay: Gotta tell you that when I look at the world, my kids, a rose, the stars, even my really dumb dogs etc. I do not immediately think of chance and random mutations. What I think of is how magical and special it all is and wonder how God actually did do all of that. However, I have too much of a science background to throw out all the evidence of the age of the earth, the mechanism for evolution etc. I have no problem believing in God, I do have a problem with people who somehow ignore the ability to use the intellect that God provided in order to try to understand the natural world.

And I will put my Dad skills up against anyone, any day.

[Guest]

Jukia
I believe there are people that have some pretty strong science backgrounds that make some strong points concerning this topic: such as Dr. Walt Brown. You are free to dimiss them. I'm glad you take dad duties seriously...if you were my dad I hope you wouldn't disown me for disagreeing, or put down my desire to seek out more knowledge...I do read both sides constantly and I never hammer students with creation...I just explain that there are different theories concerning origins when the topic comes up...thats all....Have a great day...Jay

[Jukia]

I have seen some of Brown's stuff. It is pretty wacko. Bears little relationship to the real world as most geologist/oceanographers understand it.

[Scott Cramer]

hello users

i think the topic of the water vapor canopy is pretty interesting
at first i look at through the eyes of a child

it is very obvious to me that the Lord is orchestrating this web-site
to add some sense to my life
all I can do is beg for mercy in Jesus name
T

[Jukia]

I think you would be better off looking at the water vapor canopy through the eyes of an adult. Perhaps then you would understand how silly it is.

[Dr. John Nay]

Jesus called a small child over to Him and put the child among them. Then He said, "I assure you, unless you turn from your sins and become as little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kindom of Heaven." Matthew 18:2-4 (NLT)

[Jukia]

I am familiar with that verse, what do you mean by it? Look at everything as a child would? Pretend I am not grown up? I think God wants us to use our intellect to try to understand things that is why I responded the way I did.

[Skepti Que]

Doc quotes Jesus, you can never go far wrong doing that, though I do question the choice of the New Lite Translation in general.
"I assure you, unless you turn from your sins and become as little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, anyone who becomes as humble as this little child is the greatest in the Kindom of Heaven." Matthew 18:2-4 (NLT)

Come on Doc, how does this apply? This is not about creation or a world view or about simplistic understanding. It is about repentence and humility. There are two similes in these verses. Don't you have something posted here about similes, metaphors and the like?

[Jukia]

Ditto